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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



ironsofcanada 4:02 Mon May 9
Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Working on a project and am wondering, to the modern general English (Southern, I guess) public, - what is a macaroon?

I know what it is in the 18th and 19th century and I know what a French macaron is but those defintions get confused and altered along the way. It is also related to macaroni (maccerone) going back a little more.

But what does it mean to you today?

Thanks in advance for all the witty comments.

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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:10 Wed May 11
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Euwwww!!! An 'oop...

ironsofcanada 4:14 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Russ of the BML 2:19 Tue May 10

Interesting.

That your use or from a source?


I know the "-oon" was how English represented a stressed "-on" sound in words that came from other languages in the period I work in.

Like -
coucon to cocoon - late 17th century
doublon to doubloon - early 17th century
dragon to dragoon - same
harpon to harpoon - same
etc.

Rarely English formed its own like "spitoon" and some race categories that used Latin ordinals and the suffex. I wonder if that influenced the rhyming slang.

Russ of the BML 2:19 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Its pronounced Mac-a-ron

Even though it has two o's.

stewey 2:09 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Isn’t it rhyming slang

eswing hammer 11:28 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Is it a rare Sunderland player ?

wanstead_hammer 11:06 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
It’s a biscuit/cake

And as FC said, rhyming slang donkeys years ago.

BRANDED 10:50 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
I prefer Eccles or Welsh cakes. Macaroons are trying to be fancy but are just over sweet tasteless mushy nonsense.

Macarons are also over sweet but crunchy.

blueeyed.handsomeman 5:25 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
GPH, IRONSINCANADA, TED FENTON, THE TWINHAMMERS, JOHN NORTHCUTTS CREW,

YET EV ERYONE HAS SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT IS;




SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY ARE OWLS UMPTEEN DAYYS PER WEEK

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:06 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
The answer is here. Buried within the third verse of the GREATEST SONG OF ALL TIME.

Now Ernie had a rival
An evil looking man
Called Two Ton Ted from Teddington
And he drove the baker's van
He tempted her with his treacle tarts
And his tasty wholemeal bread
And when she saw the size
Of his hot meat pies
It very near turned her head
She nearly swooned at his macaroon
And he said now if you treat me right
You'll have hot rolls evry morning
And crumpets every night
He knew once she'd sampled his layer cake
He'd have his wicked way
And all Ernie had to offer
Was a pint of milk a day

Poor Ernie (Ernie)
And he drove the fastest milkcart in the west

Nurse Ratched 2:27 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Today (well, yesterday now, I suppose) I unwittingly ate some Gorgonzola in an AMUSE BOUCHE. Didn't find out till afterwards. I am traumatised.

ironsofcanada 1:36 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Gph

Not surprising to me, I take a lot more care with my writing about food words than I do with my WHO posts. I am a multi-draft writer : ideas down and make it sound good later. Rarely do that with WHO.

(Honestly why I didn't excel in journalism or political speech writing)

Similarly not surprised you were compelled to comment.



But that aside, you are an educated English bon vivant, - what does the word "macaroon" conjure for you? Would really like to know.

gph 1:15 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Is anyone at all surprised that ioc is perfectly au fait with 18th and 19th century English, but struggles with modern-day English?

ironsofcanada 1:03 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
The point was, to you, are they

This : https://recipes.sainsburys.co.uk/recipes/macaroons

or

This: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/sharing-bites-340933-44/sainsburys-coconut-macaroons-x6

?


It used to be that English cookery books called French macarons - macaroons. But that was before they were fancy and coloured and had filling.

American cookery books started having coconut macaroons in the 19th century, which are like the second ones above. And there and seemingly the UK somewhat, "macaron" means the smooth ones with almond flour, without coconut, while macroon are ones with coconut.

Was wondering what actual English people thought of what a macaroon was.


But WHO is always good for a laugh and good insult as well.

BRANDED 12:15 Tue May 10
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Macaroon is a cake/biscuit

WTF?

Eerie Descent 11:38 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Nurse Ratched 10:50 Mon May 9

Hammer and Pickle 11:04 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
This seems to be some sort of cry for help.

Can you be a bit more precise about what you need without being turned into a fondue?

Nurse Ratched 10:50 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Arf! @ Savage

Hammer and Pickle 10:35 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Almond biscuit - are you a bit simple?

yngwies Cat 10:32 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Our Kit maker a few years back.

Cabbage Savage 5:37 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
Pickle tell me it is a sub saharan?

ironsofcanada 5:31 Mon May 9
Re: Plumbing the depths of WHO's knowledge base - What is a macaroon?
cup of tea 4:37 Mon May 9

Weirdly connects going way back.

Macaroon coming from maccaroni (maccherone) which probably comes Late Greek μάκαρ - "food made with barley" but also "blessed" - related to the goddess Macaria and the fact the food was used at funerals.

The Macarena comes from a Spanish female name meaning "happy or blessed" probably from same Greek source.

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